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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam,
Thanks for the spirited comment! A toast to the out-of-doors, away from seductive screens of any kind, be they TV or PC. (And yes, I do know what Flickr is, but my audience might not...) I will say that I don&#039;t use Flickr; perhaps this is heresy, but too bad.
-Jenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam,<br />
Thanks for the spirited comment! A toast to the out-of-doors, away from seductive screens of any kind, be they TV or PC. (And yes, I do know what Flickr is, but my audience might not&#8230;) I will say that I don&#8217;t use Flickr; perhaps this is heresy, but too bad.<br />
-Jenny</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Rosalky</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtcast.org/public-media/the-web-20-and-beyond-a-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Rosalky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The participants in this conversation were disturbingly absorbed so deep in the web, they didn&#039;t even understand the broader issue of human interaction beyond the internet that was the topic of the conversation.  They pooh-poohed the concept that online social interaction was not equivalent to human personal interaction.  They got impatient at the interviewer when she didn&#039;t know what flickr was.  They said the internet was good for social interaction and took people away from staring at the mind-numbing TV screen. (And they didn&#039;t even see the irony of this last statement.)  They even had the gall to scoff at the interviewer when she said TV and the internet BOTH take people away from getting out in the fresh air and meeting for coffee and kids&#039; soccer.

They seemed to be the poster children for &quot;Don&#039;t fall too deep into the Internet or this could happen to you!&quot;  I think I&#039;ll log off for a while and see what&#039;s on TV, it seems safer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The participants in this conversation were disturbingly absorbed so deep in the web, they didn&#8217;t even understand the broader issue of human interaction beyond the internet that was the topic of the conversation.  They pooh-poohed the concept that online social interaction was not equivalent to human personal interaction.  They got impatient at the interviewer when she didn&#8217;t know what flickr was.  They said the internet was good for social interaction and took people away from staring at the mind-numbing TV screen. (And they didn&#8217;t even see the irony of this last statement.)  They even had the gall to scoff at the interviewer when she said TV and the internet BOTH take people away from getting out in the fresh air and meeting for coffee and kids&#8217; soccer.</p>
<p>They seemed to be the poster children for &#8220;Don&#8217;t fall too deep into the Internet or this could happen to you!&#8221;  I think I&#8217;ll log off for a while and see what&#8217;s on TV, it seems safer!</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Joho the Blog, Dec 7, David Weinberger had this comment to make: 

&quot;Chris Nolan, Stowe Boyd and me on ThoughtCast:
Jenny Attiyeh&#039;s podcast site is featuring an interview she did with the three of us at the social software conference a couple of weeks ago. I haven&#039;t listened to it, but I remember being particular depressed and snappish — the Internet is being murdered and my ThinkPad had just broke — but, fortunately, Chris and Stowe were delightful.&quot;


Now what&#039;s interesting here is that in the interview, David expressed concern that the Internet &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; be murdered  -- conditional future tense -- and that the forces that might do so haven&#039;t really woken up yet to the threat the web poses to business as usual. So why the switch? What&#039;s going on out there to prompt the use of the present tense??? 
Your input is in demand.
Cheers,
Jenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Joho the Blog, Dec 7, David Weinberger had this comment to make: </p>
<p>&#8220;Chris Nolan, Stowe Boyd and me on ThoughtCast:<br />
Jenny Attiyeh&#8217;s podcast site is featuring an interview she did with the three of us at the social software conference a couple of weeks ago. I haven&#8217;t listened to it, but I remember being particular depressed and snappish — the Internet is being murdered and my ThinkPad had just broke — but, fortunately, Chris and Stowe were delightful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now what&#8217;s interesting here is that in the interview, David expressed concern that the Internet <em>might</em> be murdered  &#8212; conditional future tense &#8212; and that the forces that might do so haven&#8217;t really woken up yet to the threat the web poses to business as usual. So why the switch? What&#8217;s going on out there to prompt the use of the present tense???<br />
Your input is in demand.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Jenny</p>
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		<title>By: Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>December 07, 2005
Posted by Stowe Boyd

Jenny Attiyeh interviewed David Weinberger, Chris Nolan, and me just after the Symposium on Social Architecture, and she&#039;s posted that at Thoughtcast: (see The Web 2.0 and beyond — a conversation).

Her first question was directed to me, where she asked whether the growth of the Web was uncontrolled, like evolution, or was it instead following some intelligent design. I replied that the Web seems to be proceeding like an orgy: its headed somewhere, but no one is in control. David was peeved because of a series of hardware problems (PC, not human) that day, but he doesn&#039;t seem it. Chris was funny, despite the fact that we were missing the first half of the symposium cocktail party.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>December 07, 2005<br />
Posted by Stowe Boyd</p>
<p>Jenny Attiyeh interviewed David Weinberger, Chris Nolan, and me just after the Symposium on Social Architecture, and she&#8217;s posted that at Thoughtcast: (see The Web 2.0 and beyond — a conversation).</p>
<p>Her first question was directed to me, where she asked whether the growth of the Web was uncontrolled, like evolution, or was it instead following some intelligent design. I replied that the Web seems to be proceeding like an orgy: its headed somewhere, but no one is in control. David was peeved because of a series of hardware problems (PC, not human) that day, but he doesn&#8217;t seem it. Chris was funny, despite the fact that we were missing the first half of the symposium cocktail party.</p>
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		<title>By: Spot-On: Chris Nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spot-On: Chris Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mine Is Still Cheap&lt;/strong&gt;
Dec 5, 11:56 PM
Posted by Chris Nolan 
After the Corante conference last month, Jenny Attiyeh, who runs thoughtcast.org, conducted an interview with Corante&#039;s COO Stowe Boyd, Mr. Cluetrain, David Weinberger and me. Attiyeh&#039;s calling three of us &quot;Internet gurus.&quot; I&#039;m not so sure I deserve the title - those two others do, however - so you can click on over to Thoughtcast and have a listen to us talking about what we think is happening on the web and where we think it&#039;s all going.
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Dec 5, 11:56 PM<br />
Posted by Chris Nolan<br />
After the Corante conference last month, Jenny Attiyeh, who runs thoughtcast.org, conducted an interview with Corante&#8217;s COO Stowe Boyd, Mr. Cluetrain, David Weinberger and me. Attiyeh&#8217;s calling three of us &#8220;Internet gurus.&#8221; I&#8217;m not so sure I deserve the title &#8211; those two others do, however &#8211; so you can click on over to Thoughtcast and have a listen to us talking about what we think is happening on the web and where we think it&#8217;s all going.</p>
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